F I D O N E W S -- Vol.11 No. 3 (16-Jan-1994) +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | A newsletter of the | | | FidoNet BBS community | Published by: | | _ | | | / \ | "FidoNews" BBS | | /|oo \ | +1-519-570-4176 1:1/23 | | (_| /_) | | | _`@/_ \ _ | Editors: | | | | \ \\ | Sylvia Maxwell 1:221/194 | | | (*) | \ )) | Donald Tees 1:221/192 | | |__U__| / \// | Tim Pozar 1:125/555 | | _//|| _\ / | | | (_/(_|(____/ | | | (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. | | | -- JOSEPH PULITZER | +----------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ | Submission address: editors 1:1/23 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Internet addresses: | | | | Sylvia -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca | | Donald -- donald@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca | | Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com | | Both Don & Sylvia (submission address) | | editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | For information, copyrights, article submissions, | | obtaining copies and other boring but important details, | | please refer to the end of this file. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ======================================================================== Table of Contents ======================================================================== 1. Editorial..................................................... 2 2. Articles...................................................... 2 The History of Fidonet a Progress Report.................... 3 Educating the Unwashed Masses Revisited..................... 3 New England Telco Dialing Changes........................... 7 TEMPORARY vs PERMANENT...................................... 8 MAGICK Echo................................................. 9 Announcing the RBBS-PC File Distribution Network............ 10 Dear Friends,............................................... 11 Since FidoNews is International............................. 12 STORMNET.................................................... 13 Hot Off the Tree............................................ 18 the 21st Century Moderator.................................. 21 What is the Purpose of Fidonews, If Any?.................... 22 Presentamos: FIDONOTICIAS INTERNACIONAL..................... 24 3. Fidonews Information.......................................... 25 FidoNews 11-03 Page: 2 16 Jan 1994 ======================================================================== Editorial ======================================================================== We've tried something new this issue: you may notice a few non-english articles. We'll see what happens. At least there's no high ASCII this time to wreak havoc with internet hosts. Policy4 is vaque on language. It says: "The official language of FidoNet is English. All documents must exist in English. Translation into other languages is encouraged." Not a word about the language of the snooze. We wanted to open up the snooze more to the rest of the world. We started by offering to translate as best we could, but quickley discovered that our language skills are not up to the kind of idiomatic non-formal language typical of the BBS. We then tried to get the articles translated. It took too long, and too much time. The ideal, of course, would be too have the entire snooze translated into each and every language that is used on the net, and make all those issues available to all. Maybe someone will eventually write a "language gate" set of software that makes that possible. So here we are. If we are going to be an international net, then we are going to have to cope with language issues. Until we get something better, some people are not going to be able to read some articles. We are going to ask that people attempt to supply a translation of articles, simply because we believe that a common language is beneficial to the net. We also realize, however, that nuance cannot be translated easily. Sometimes a point is important enough that it needs be made in one's milk-tongue. The article form Francois Thunus, which apparently supports the "free Fidonet from language bias" effort, ends with a tag line remniscent of pre-feminist idiocy. I want Steve Winter back. At least he *knows* he's offending people. ======================================================================== Articles ======================================================================== FidoNews 11-03 Page: 3 16 Jan 1994 The History of Fidonet a Progress Report By Marge Robbins 1:283/120 or mrobbins@wps.com I am happy to report that the history of Fidonet is going well. I am even begining to have high hopes that it will reach a decent stopping point by June 1994, when our net will be 10 years old. Interviews have been taped with Tom Jennings, Butch Walker, Dan Buda, Bob Davis, and Burt Juda. Mr. Jennings has graciously given me access to his storehouse of historical files. I have been systematicly raiding that treasure house. At this point I have a pretty complete picture of the begining of Fidonet and its early growth. But some areas are lacking. Thus I am making another appeal. The entire IFNA thing remains a confusing enigma to me, ending as it did just about the time I joined Fidonet. I also have little or no information on zones 2-6. So if you know anything about 1. IFNA 2. The history of zones 2-6 or have early nodelists please contact me. I can use your help. In the final analysis this history will be as good or as poor as we as a group make it. I can compile and organize data, but I can't write about things I wasn't there to witness without input from those who were. As a correlary I thought it would be kind of interesting to collect early versions of the software that was used in the early and not so early days of Fidonet. I have some already, Binkley 1.0, some early Fidos, etc. But a lot is missing. For example I would love to set up Opus 1.xxx, Seadog, echomail, etc. and play with them. Fido 11 is kinda cute. I had it running locally for a while. In the interim I will be making any donated files available for freq here at 1:283/120 . When the project reaches the point of being a "wrap" for the first ten years, I will be looking for a permanent place to archive the "Fidonet's Roots" files. Probably some internet site that offers anonymous FTP. At this point I'm open to any reasonable suggestions. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Educating the Unwashed Masses Revisited By Steve Barnes 1:224/150@fidonet.org Educating the Unwashed Masses II -------------------------------- A few issues back in the 'snews the editors printed my submission regarding a project our network was organizing. To briefly recap. We were holding a free seminar at our local library to serve as an FidoNews 11-03 Page: 4 16 Jan 1994 introduction to the online community. The original article was written some weeks before the actual seminar was to take place, I'll pick up the story up where the last one left off. I mentioned how one of the local newspapers were to do a feature on our seminar after another newspaper felt it wasn't newsworthy. What I neglected to mention in the second submission was a rather unique bit of timing. Let me explain. Up here in the great white north (frigid too.. wind chill tonight is -56C!) We are under a publication ban in an murder investigation. Very controversial stuff this. Well, some local computer hackers (sic) decided to make a big splash and FAX'ed copies of American newspaper articles to various local businesses. One of which is the previously mentioned newspaper. It just so happens that the day I called regarding advertising our venture was the same day they received the banned information. Obviously, this would appear to be a very suspicious coincidence. To make a long story short, I agreed to speak to the local police force and _completely_ open up my system to them. This accomplished two things. It showed the newspaper that not all bulletin board users are cyberpunks, and that, in actual fact, the vast majority of callers are regular people (well for the most part anyway :) Well, the first newspaper I approached got wind that their competitors were pulling out all the stops, well... thats different, they scrambled to put together a feature article and to beat the others publishing deadline. Ain't being able to pit 'enemies' against each other great :-) In the meantime, I arranged with our local college to borrow an LCD Display tablet for use with a projector. They bent over backwards to accommodate us. This is a very expensive piece of equipment that is basically a 'clear' computer screen. It sits on top of a projector. If you attempt a seminar like we did, secure this first! (BTW, we never did get to play Rebel Assault or DOOM on it :-) Saturday, 3 days before the seminar, one of the newspapers publishes a *LARGE* article about bulletin boards complete with pictures of yours truly looking like a complete idiot (natch) and several local BBS numbers. By 2 o'clock that afternoon. My BBS system begins what turns out to be a milestone. I'll speak about this shortly. Sunday, the other paper publishes their *LARGE* article, mit der' picture of me looking like I haven't shit for a week.. My hard disk is smoking, the phone is constantly busy... Its now the day before the seminar, a Monday, the seminar is to be held at 7pm Tuesday. The local radio station called and wanted me to come in and do a spot for their daily whats happening segment. They want me to come in for 9:15am, the day of the seminar. Of course, I agreed to this. FidoNews 11-03 Page: 5 16 Jan 1994 About 15 minutes later I get a PANIC filled call from the Library. Their phone WON'T stop ringing. They've had to pull other employees from their normal duties to man the switchboard. I later find out they were averaging a call every 2 minutes. So, why the panic? The library auditorium is only rated for 200 people.... Tuesday. D-Day. I sleep reasonably well, I get up out of bed, and trundle on down to the radio station. Cool place this, they have serious babes working their (Mental Note: Submit resume to radio station :) I speak with the D.J. while he sets up the various equipment. I'm informed that he has six minutes of air time to fill. Cool. We do the interview, and manage to fill up 17 minutes before he wraps it up. Oh oh. He's gonna have to edit it heavily. All in all, I thought it went reasonably well. Its going to air an hour before the seminar starts. Shoot, I'm going to be busy setting up. I call a couple of friends and ask them to record it for me. I'm wound up tighter than ... lets just say every bodily orifice was acutely puckered. We setup, everything is working just great. No problems at all. Obviously, not a good sign. The auditorium has the seats laid out for 130 people. With more chairs stacked on the sides. At 6:30 pm, the CEO of library informs me their are quite a few people waiting out in the cold. At the same time, some other library employees move to the stacked chairs and put them ALL out. I tell the CEO to let them in.. OH MY GOD. I instantly have the feeling my tongue has swollen to 3 times its normal size.. and it has a wool sock on it. I request a cup and pitcher of Jack Daniels. The auditorium is packed to capacity within 2 and a half minutes, their aren't anymore chairs, their people standing in the isles, their are people EVERYWHERE. The CEO tells me I have to ask those not seated to leave, their blocking the fire exits. I do this, realizing that what I'm saying is completely unintelligible, I sound like a Froggee on the Little Rascals. A fellow sysop operating the equipment later tells me that my lips were white, my tongue was white. Precisely at 7pm, I jump write into it, explaining to the audience that I'm not a public speaker, I'm a BBS operator, a recluse, and they are looking at possibly the most terrified human being in all of Canada. Within 15 to 20 minutes, my tongue has regained its normal size, though it still has a sock on it.. We expected the crowd to be composed mostly of people under about 25, with a few more mature people thrown in for good measure. Way off. The average age in attendance was probably around 40. At most, their were 10 people under 25 their. The seminar - it went flawlessly. Well, except for the fact that no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't see my notes, we had to kill FidoNews 11-03 Page: 6 16 Jan 1994 the main lights in favour of the spotlights to enhance the visibility of the projection screen. I had to 'wing' it for 2 hours! I didn't flee. Everybody saw what a bulletin board was about. They saw it wasn't the domain of flinty eyed punks like they've been led to believe by the mainstream media. They saw it for what it really is, the most incredible piece of readily available technology to communicate with the world. They learned how to set up their modems, about baud rates and protocols. They learned how to transfer files, how to check their own files for virii. It went _well_. At the end of the seminar, when we turned the main lights back on, about half the crowd 'rushed' the stage with more questions. All through the seminar, they were encouraged to stop me, and ask if they had a question. Obviously, they were impressed. They asked still more intelligent questions. The CEO pulled me aside while the others were knocking down the equipment. I was _spent_. Completely and utterly exhausted. The CEO *TOLD* me I was doing another seminar . I was told that they easily turned away 250 people. This in addition to the people who called ahead of time and asked if their was going to be another seminar as they couldn't make this one. I was told that no other 'event' the library has hosted since it was built in the 1950's has ever gotten that kind of turnout. They were pleased to say the least. I thought something was up before the start of the seminar as the CEO disappeared - she returned with a Polaroid camera and took pictures of the crowd, the equipment etc. The guys and I went out for a coffee after the seminar (like I needed caffeine!). That night, I couldn't sleep, I finally fell asleep about 5am. I got up the next day to a ringing telephone. It was the CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation). They want to do a radio interview. It seems they were at the seminar and were impressed. It may air nationwide. I mentioned at the start about the 'milestone' with my BBS system. The whole point of this seminar for us was to attract a new 'base' of users. Not the usuals, but people who have a computer and a modem and have just never tried it. Now, about that milestone. You need to know a few things before hand. I run a message oriented system - its a single line system, I run QuickBBS on my Atari ST. Before the seminar, I typically got between 25-35 calls per day, and had, on Saturday morning before the newspaper article, 287 people in my password file. Saturday, my system got 68 calls. 27 new users. Sunday, 63 calls, more new users. Monday, 67 calls, still more new users. Its Wednesday as I write this. Its just NOT letting up. I'm rapidly approaching 400 users. My system is reporting usage rates of 92%. My mail isn't going out until Zone Mail Hour. Every other system in Sudbury reports similar results. My regular callers, when they finally do manage to get through, they're telling me they've been auto-dialing for an hour. Is this getting through to you guys? We didn't spend a dime FidoNews 11-03 Page: 7 16 Jan 1994 setting this up. Just some time and a little handshaking. I really wish I could give you some hard and fast numbers. I can't, their is HUGE number of people out their who just don't know how to get online. Their real people, mature people with real life experience, they've never had their voice heard. You can tell when they finally grasp the concept of echomail. Their jaws hit the floor. Arms shoot up into the air. "You mean I can talk to somebody in Australia? For FREE?!) Everybody, I'm going to be honest with you. I've never done anything like this before. I seriously doubted I could pull it off. It was _easy_. You need to do this. Get the word out. The rewards are enormous. I have to go into the library tomorrow to set a date for the next seminar. I had a blast organizing and setting it up, but quite frankly, I think their is enough demand to do at least 4 or 5 of these seminars, were considering approaching our local cable channel and doing a series of shows that can go into much more depth. Wanna bet they'll jump at the opportunity! Do it. -Steve Barnes (NC 224) P.S. I finally did hear my radio interview. Little tip; Don't do a radio interview 45 minutes after you get out of bed. I sound like a cross between Bobcat Goldwaithe and a lobotomized Barney the dinosaur :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- New England Telco Dialing Changes By: Matthew Burks I live in New Hampshire and I am a NET132 sysop. Here, the money hungry Telco is going to change the way we dial in- state phone numbers. Right now, in order to dial long distance in state you must dial 1 then the seven digits of the phone number. If you don't dial 1 before LD calls or dial 1 before local calls then you get a recording. Either way, you know when you are spending money and when you aren't. Well, I guess the Telco doesn't want us to know when we are feeding them cash. They are going to change it so that we just dial the seven digits of the phone number. This way, to find out if we are paying for the call, we would have to either look in the phone book, or call the operator. Most people don't want to have the trouble of doing this. That is what the Telco is counting on. If you don't like this scheme to rip us off, then express your outrage by writing a letter to: New England Telephone 1228 Elm Street Manchester, NH 03101 FidoNews 11-03 Page: 8 16 Jan 1994 Any questions or comments PLEASE fax me at 603-6723541. Be sure to include your node dumber and/or fax number and I might be able to reply. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- TEMPORARY vs PERMANENT by Edward Tushar (1:385/29) Well, after reading several issues of FidoNews, I have decided to send in my own little bit of information. A little background may be in order: Sysop for about 19 months. These stories require opinions from others. I will include mine. Here goes: I belong to a net that happens to encompass a large Army installation. For people in a net this means several things. One is that you will have people in the net who will be here today and gone tomorrow and others that are permanent. (or die, whichever occurs first!) Those of us that fall into the category of here today, gone tomorrow, of course feel that we somehow are not true members of the net. Are opinions are constantly countered by the clique (those who are here permanently). A few months ago we voted on a new EchoCoop policy. Those of us in the military had a lot to say about it. Well, the clique was there and in stronger voice than us temporary people. So, of course the policy was implemented no problem. The next thing to happen was a satellite purchase. We could chip in some money and get echoes for a mere $9 a month. Of course, I said, "What happens after I mail the $150 and Uncle Sam says go to Korea?" (or Germany? or recruiting?) "Well, you would have to sell your share to someone else." "Uh, OK.. NOT!" You get the idea. So it came down to those who could not or would not pay the initial satellite cost would pay $15 a month for echoes. Not a bad deal. So I asked "What happens when you have recovered the initial cost of the investment?" "It will go into an emergency fund." "So what happens when you have enough money in the emergency fund to buy 100 satellites?" "It will pay the cost of the phone bill to send mail back up the chain." "Well, what happens after you pay that $20 to cover phone costs?" "SHUT UP ALREADY!" I guess you get the idea. The last thing, and the thing that really irks me is this: We are now in the process of voting for a new NEC. The voting is a simple net- mail to the NC with the name of the person and a password so you know that your vote was correctly registered. (Side note - I disagree with this method. I know my vote is there, but how do I know the other votes are legitimate?) Now, what is the problem you ask? Well, the problem is that the NC is a guy who nominated one of the two people going for the job. If he nominated him, how can he count the votes? Is that not like the President nominating an Attorney General and then counting the votes at the confirmation vote? I should say that the two people who were nominated were a clique and a temporary person. I know that stability is important to a *C's or *EC's position, but FidoNews 11-03 Page: 9 16 Jan 1994 not in the net I belong to. The NEC in our net has only one job. That is to moderate the local echoes and pass them around the local net. Not hard. I guess I am kind of getting this off of my chest. I welcome your opinions and/or experiences. By the way, I am on my recruiting after only 1 1/2 years here. Any of you interested in an Army career? See me in July! --Edward Tushar, Lawton, Oklahoma 405-355-1768 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- MAGICK Echo by Marisa Broughton and Jeff Galbraith Anatomy of the MAGICK Echo The Magick echo is like an interactive computerized magazine on the metaphysics. What sets Magick apart from other metaphysical echoes, is that Magick is more than just another message base. The following is a menu of some of the items that Magick features: 1. Weekly articles on various metaphysical subjects such as, shopping for a psychic, animal totems, wicca, shamanism, psychic attacks, numerology, tarot, black magic, Qabalah, Crowley, and much more. 2. Free services such as dream interpretation, numerology calculations, nature symbolism interpretation, animal totem interpretation and again, much more. 3. Free instruction provided on the following areas: How to calculate your numerology; How to read and interpret the Tarot; How to construct a talisman or amulet; How to perform a consecration, blessing and exorcism and so on. 4. Discussions on various areas of interest such as, the psychology behind magick, false messiahs, cults, wicca, psychic phenomena, pathologies of death, ceremonies and ritual. Your imagination is the limit. The potential of this echo is endless, and the moderators welcome any of those who want to add instruction on a metaphysical area not yet covered, answer questions, voice opinions, debate issues or just read the articles featured. ...knowledge, wisdom and understanding, the formula for a higher state of being. This echo is currently privately hubbed. If you would like to be hooked in, please contact Jeff Galbraith @ 1:134/21.0, The Secret C BBS. It is our intentions to get this echo onto the backbone as soon as possible. You can help by participating. Thank you. FidoNews 11-03 Page: 10 16 Jan 1994 Announcing the RBBS-PC File Distribution Network by Eddie Rowe, Fidonet#1:136/1 Are you interested in picking up the latest copies of RBBS-PC related software, but each time you try to pickup a copy from the author's system the phone is busy? Do you recall the fiasco when RBBS-PC 17.4 was released and you were told it would be released in another File Distribution System, you waited, and it never arrived? Are you a RBBS-PC third party author looking for an easy way to share a copy of your works with other RBBS-PC sysops? Well, we have solved those challenges and more! The RBBS-PC File Distribution Network exists with one goal, the rapid distribution of RBBS-PC related software via ANY medium, no matter how LARGE the works may be. Current technology being used includes dialup modems, satelite delivery, and satelite delivery! Here is a glimpse at the areas that makeup the RBBS-PC FDN: Area RBBSADMN RBBS: Administrative Files Area RBBSDOOR RBBS: Doors Specific to RBBS Area RBBSMAIL RBBS: Mail Processers -- FTN/PostLink/QWK Area RBBSMISC RBBS: Miscellaneous Area RBBSPC RBBS: RBBS-PC Merges/Patches/Releases Area RBBSUTIL RBBS: 3rd Party Utilities Files released into the RBBS-PC FDN are accompanied by special files (called TICs) that provide information about the files. Using a TIC processor one can automatically add descriptions of the files to a RBBS-PC File Management System (FMS) so BBS callers who might not enjoy the usage of Fidonet Technology can get access to the files as soon as they arrive! The RBBS-PC File Distribution Network is available from any Fidonet FileBone site, Planet Connect site, or by ftping to ftp.fidonet.org (look in the pub/fidonet directory). Authors which do not place restrictions on having their works included in CD-ROM volumes also have their works uploaded to the SimTel archive site @ Oak.Oakland.Edu in the pub/msdos/rbbs_pc/ directory for ftp callers (ftp.fidonet.org only keeps files for few days, SimTel keeps files indefinitely). Eddie Rowe @ Fidonet#1:136/1 (318-345-1955) also has a standing offer to link in ANYONE willing to check in periodically via modem( v.32bis and ZyXEL speeds). Authors of RBBS-PC utilities are HIGHLY encouraged to send a copy of their works to Patty Pickett @ Fidonet#1:380/5 (318-865-4503), including a short description of the files being submitted for distribution in the RBBS-PC FDN and what area they feel is most appropriate. Distribution is limited to North America as far as we know, but the channels exist for Europe to link into the system if someone has the resources to cross the Atlantic to pickup the files via dialup or ftp. Join us in the RBBS-PC File Distribution Network today! FidoNews 11-03 Page: 11 16 Jan 1994 Dear Friends, I just finished reading Fido1102.news, especially the article titled "The International Connection" by Daniel Finger. I have to whole- heartedly agree with Daniel about how GREAT Fidonet is. A little more than 2 years ago, my beautiful wife Josie, bought my first computer as our first anniversary present; Six months after that I bought my first modem, and 6 months after my modem I had my first BBS online. At first I had no E-mail capabilities, but request after request I thought it might be time to add a mailer so I installed FrontDoor v2.02. With the help of our Fidonet NEC, Floyd Drennon and our NC, Tom Jones, I had absolutely NO problems configuring the mailer. About a year after receiving my first computer, I had a fully functional BBS w/mailer, 7 CD-ROM Drives online, multi-node, and most of the help went to Floyd and Tom who always offered assistance when needed. It's members of the Fidonet family like Floyd and Tom who give Fidonet a good name. In fact, I have personally have been a member of Fidonet for over a year and have never heard of any negative comments about Fidonet, what does that tell you??? Fidonet has flourish so, that when you associate BBS with mailers, you assume Fidonet! I mention Daniel's article because he mentions how Fidonet is one of the largest non-profit organizations, and I have to admit, if you where to rate Fido like consumer reports rates merchandise; for dependability, reliability, effeciency, and NO costs, Fido would rate on a scale of 1 to 10, an eleven! In closing, I would just like to mention, like Floyd and Tom, I try to carry out the tradition of Fidonet sysops are people who are always available to help the inexperience. As a result, let me depart with this message that I've just received from one of many users who leave messages like this on my board all the time; this was left less than 2 hours ago. (11591) Sat 15 Jan 94 12:21a By: Kalibos To: Bill Bernhardt Re: Thanx again St: Local Rcvd --------------- @PID: RA 2.01 80253 @MSGID: 1:375/46 52d5d4a2 Hey Bill, You know there's not too many SYSOPs that will tke the time that you have with me. I really appreciate it and thanks for the extra time. After I get this D: drive going I'll probably get back on and download some stuff. Thank you again. Have a GREAT weekend. NOTE: Please feel free to publicize this in any form desired. Thanks!!! FidoNews 11-03 Page: 12 16 Jan 1994 Hello Editors! Since FidoNews is International please publish the following text. Thank you, Francois Thunus (2:270/25.1) Je me rejouis de voir qu'enfin FidoLand se rend compte qu'il existe autre chose dans le monde que les Etats-Unis. Peut-etre ce periodique soit-disant obligatoire va-t-il se convertir en un veritable trait d'union entre tous les sysops de fidonet. je ne peux donc que me rejouir du tournant enfin pris. Je profite donc de l'occasion pour lancer un appel a tous les sysops, et plus particulierement les sysops europeens afin que eux aussi participent a la creation de ce journal. Je profite de l'antenne :-) pour demander aux sysops francais de me contacter au sujet de la distribution des conferences Mensa et SuperBBS en France, car il semble qu'il y aie un gros probleme. Merci de votre aide. Y ya que estoy, tambien quiero saber si llegan las conferencias Mensa y SuperBBS en Espanya, parece que hay un problema alli tambien. Vd podrian utilizar tambien el fidonew para explicar un poco mas al mundo las relaciones un poco especiales que todavia existen entre su maravilloso pais y los paises de America Latina. Seria interesante, por ejemplo, comparar la situacion del punto de vista de la imigracion en un sentido y en el otro con la situacion existente entre la Inglaterra y sus antigas colonias. Gracias. Claro esta, o mesmo pode-se dizer aos operadores do Brasil e de Portugal. Tambem podria ser bastante interesante ver como e que voces chegaram a que situacao, para que todos mais soubemos das formalidades entre os varios paises do mundo. Acho que realmente seria um tema de interesse geral, ja que a gente de hoje muda cada vez mais, e cada vez entre paises mais distantes. Obrigado. Og til at slutte, jeg vil ogsaa gerne ha' en lille smule mere skandinavisk til at skrive, paa Dansk, eller Norsk eller Svensk, selfoegelig. Det skulle vaere ogsaa sjovt med Finsk, men jeg ved ikke rigtig, om det findes saa mange mennesker, som kan laese det :-). Jeg havde en echo som var kun for svensker i udland, men jeg har tabt min feed, saa nu har jeg intet :- <. Hvis det er nogen, som ved hvor jeg kan finde det.. I Tyskland, Belgie eller Luxemburg (?), er det OK. Det skulle vaere muligt i Tyskland, tror jeg. tak for det. Last but not least, ik zal natuurlijk wensen alle sysop, points en fido liden van de HELE wereld en goed, gelukkig en weet-ik-wat-meer jaar 1994, met snelle connecties met alle. Tot straks hier in fidonews, misschien ? I think that sums it up rather nicely :-) -= Francois =- FidoNet : 2:270/1 DIVORCE = system("echo y | erase \wife\*.*" ); FidoNews 11-03 Page: 13 16 Jan 1994 STORMNET By: Alan Jurison - (1:260/375) Your sitting here. Reading this introduction. You're about to skip this article. Yeah. I know what your thinking- I do it every now and then too.. :-) Stay here and read a little. I'm sure you'll have some interest. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ******* **** * * * * * ******* ***** **** **** ***** * * * **** ***** * * * * **** * * * * * * ** * ******* * **** * * * * * * **** **** * ------------------------------------------------------------------ I thought I would take the time to write about our network, StormNet. What Is StormNet? StormNet is an alternative network for use with FidoNet compatible software (QWK hub available). We pass messages back and forth both in netmail and in echomail conferences. In StormNet, each node is welcomed and assisted in many ways by other StormNet members. We have active echomail areas and a growing file echo selection. Our echomail traffic is growing every day, and are now pulling more mail ever than before. StormNet has a more friendly atmosphere than can be found in many of those other nets. StormNet has been in existence for just over a year and a half, and in that time, has grown significantly. Our membership has changed from an inexperienced group of local nodes to a more mature group of people from all over the United States and Canada. Currently, we have over 110 nodes in StormNet, and are expanding every week! Why is StormNet here? StormNet was started for a few reasons. When we created it, we wanted to serve teens, adults, and others worldwide with a quality alternative network that is relatively cheap to pull in. Most of our high speed transfers take less than a minute. You don't have to poll every day, we are flexible and will allow you to poll whenever you like. We want to serve you with the finest quality echomail and files for you and your users. We are considerably smaller than FidoNet, and therefore do not have the overflow of mail/files often seen in its conferences. The average cost per month for one who pulls StormNet and polls daily is around $6.00 within the US. What are the rules like? StormNet? Rules? You've got to be kidding me. Well, it's not like we don't have any rules; all of the rules in our policy FidoNews 11-03 Page: 14 16 Jan 1994 statement basically stem from one basic principle - "Be nice and use common sense." The policy's specifics were written to outline some problems which may potentially arise when people aren't nice and don't use common sense. The SNAC (StormNet Advisory Council) consists of teenagers and adults. This group of fine folks helps to ensure the smooth running of StormNet affairs. StormNet does not discriminate because of their age, sex, national origin, religion, sexual orientation, beliefs, taste in food, opinion on world politics, or favorite color. We welcome anyone who is interested in joining a fun network to try out StormNet. We also don't allow "bashing", spindling or other forms of mutilation of groups in our newsletters, or any of our echos (excluding WAR_ZONE), and other parts of our network. What are the echos like? We have a variety of conferences to suit most needs. If you are a user of StormNet, or a node, you can request an echo if you feel it would be active. We have echos on many subjects, A to Z (as we say SN_A to SN_Z). We have a talented staff of moderators and co-moderators, and combined with the efforts of our international echomail coordinator, keep the network running smoothly. What are the file echos like? We offer file echos for our nodes too. Although we will not go into this matter much in this article, we have great files from all around. We don't allow trash to be hatched in our echos. Our file echo coordinator helps to coordinate our file echos. Nodelists, Policies, and Newsfiles.. Our nodelist coordinator is dedicated to his nodelist management.. He strives to make sure the nodelist that is released is as accurate as possible. The nodelist coordinator has never secretly switched the nodelist for new Folgers' Crystals :-) Our Literature Coordinator updates the policy and creates "StormNews", the official newsletter of StormNet. He also edits carefully other documents for StormNet. In almost all cases, our nodelists and nodediffs are issued by Friday at 12am. In fact, we usually issue most periodicals before the Friday deadline. To make less calls necessary, all of StormNet's documents are released at about the same time. Support StormNet has support sites for different types of softwares. We currently have technical support nodes/echos for BinkleyTerm, Maximus, QBBS, Storm Watch Software, RemoteAccess, and T.A.G.. New technical support nodes for other software are permitted. When you apply for technical support, you will get a flag in the FidoNews 11-03 Page: 15 16 Jan 1994 nodelist designating you as a support site for that software (ie: S-TAG or S-BINK). You also get your name added to the list of technical support nodes at the bottom of the nodelist. And finally, you have the option to add an echo for the software you support. File echos are even available upon request. Netted Doors We have an ISA tournament linkup. With this, sysops who run ISA can link up to all the ISA's in our network. ISA is a fun game for use with networking, and we have a coordinated group... Other door programs that can do this are allowed, too. What we're looking for. StormNet is looking for nodes who want to pull in high quality echomail at a relatively cheap price. Ones who think they would like StormNet to be on their BBSes or computers. We are currently looking for two (2) RC's within the USA, and five (5) in Canada. We are also looking for a few zone hubs, preferably two or three more who would poll the Int'l Backbone daily or every other day and would be willing to distribute mail. Note: We are restructuring the Canada zone at this time. Help would be appreciated. We also are looking for new zones to create all the time. StormNet is not just limited to North America, other continents and countries are allowed and encouraged. We'd like to expand StormNet worldwide, and we think that everyone would benefit from this and it would strengthen relations between other nations. We'd be willing to work with you to install a new zone in your country/continent. Not only are we looking for the above positions, but we're looking for NC's everywhere that would be willing to call LD to a RHub/ZHub/IHub and distribute mail to your area. We are looking for NC's everywhere we don't already have one. Why should I consider StormNet? We respect each and every StormNet member and his/her rights. We offer our services to all. We have a great network setup. We want all to join and have a good time in the network that we have created. We're proud of our network. If you have any questions, feel free to contact any of the nodes listed below. We hope look into us! Alan Jurison StormNet Int'l EchoMail Coordinator Philip Spevak StormNet International Coordinator FidoNews 11-03 Page: 16 16 Jan 1994 You May F'req STORMNET (or STORMNET.*) From these nodes: BBS : Ham-Net BBS Position : StormNet Int'l HQ / IEC / ZoneGate-181<->182 / Mid Atlantic RC SysOp : Alan Jurison Location : Manlius, New York, USA Data Phone : (315)682-1824 Voice Phone: (315)682-9411 (15:00-22:00 EST) FidoNet : (1:260/375) StormNet : (181:181/1) Speed(s) : 14,400 v32b -- 16,800 HST BBS : Storm Watch OLS Position : StormNet Int'l Coord / INC SysOp : Philip Spevak Location : Syracuse, New York, USA Data Phone : (315)445-5643 FidoNet : (1:260/374) StormNet : (181:181/2) Speed(s) : 14,400 v32b -- 16,800 HST BBS : ASA CompuHelp Positions : StormNet United States ZC / Ohio Valley RC SysOp : Jeff Binkley Location : Gahana, Ohio, USA Data Phone : (614)476-3723 FidoNet : (1:226/600) StormNet : (181:181/0) Speed(s) : 14,400 v32b -- 14,400 HST We are currently reorganizing Zone 182- If you're interested, we have positions available in Canada. ------------ Regions ------------ Zone 181 - United States - (181:181x) : REGION General Location States Served Location SysOp Name FidoNet Address ------------------------------------------------------- 1810 Mid Atlantic NY, NJ, PA, DE, MD, DC, VA Manlius, NY Alan Jurison 1:260/375 1811 Midwest IA, MN, ND, SD (* Position Ope 1812 Pacific CA, WA, OR, HI, AK Rocklin, CA John Delk 1:203/952 1813 Ohio Valley IL, IN, KY, MI, OH, WI, WV Gahana, OH Jeff Binkley 1:226/600 FidoNews 11-03 Page: 17 16 Jan 1994 1814 Mountain MT, WY, UT, CO (* Position Ope 1815 New England MA, ME, CT, RI, NH, VT Pawcatuck, CT David Murphy 1:320/128 1816 Western Corridor ID, NV, NM, AZ Fort Huachuca, Temp RC: Alan Jurison 1:260/375 RC: Marlin England 1:309/45 1817 South Atlantic NC, SC, TN, MS, GA, FL Charlotte, NC John Pierce 1:379/7 1818 Central NE, KS, MO Bellevue, NE Curt White 1:285/35 1819 Southern Corridor TX, OK, LA, AR Houma, LA Ed Spoon 1:384/10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Zone 182 - Canada - (182:182x): REGION General Location Province(s) Served Location SysOp Name FidoNet Address ---------------------------------------------------------- 1820 Ontario Canada Ontario (* Position Ope 1821 Quebec Canada Quebec Province (* Position Ope 1822 Eastern Canada PE, NB, NS, NF (* Position Ope 1823 Central Canada MB, SK (* Position Ope 1824 Western Canada AB, BC (* Position Ope 1825 Northern Canada YT, NWT (* Position Ope We are reorganizing Canada. All forms of help would be appreciated. Quick index of NETs: NET Net Name Location SysOp Fido ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 192 Central New York Net DeWitt, NY Kevin Coates 260 196 Eastern VA Net Virginia Beach, VA Bob Miedema 275 197 Northern New Jersey Net Tenafly, NJ Timothy Donahue 107 198 Central Virginia Net Petersburg, VA Walter Burton 264 200 Northern VA Net McLean, VA Dave Warner 209 262 Central California Net Los Banos, CA Robert Prior 208 291 Wisconsin Net Stevens Point, WI Steve Oliver 338 292 Detroit Area Net Troy, MI Victor Capton 120 293 Central Kentucky Net Louisville, KY Roy Edmonson 502-957 321 Pueblo Net Pueblo, CO Gary Totemwongse 307 381 Southern Arizona Sierra Vista, AZ Bill Morris 309 382 Central Arizona Phoenix, AZ Robb Ballard 114 383 Northern Arizona Flagstaff, AZ Jacob Bailly 304 384 Las Vegas Net Las Vegas, NV Leslie Trombly 209 FidoNews 11-03 Page: 18 16 Jan 1994 411 Central Georgia Net Warner Robins, GA Jeff Floyd 361 413 Mississippi Net Columbus, MS Byron Griffin 601-434-5 415 E. North Carolina Net Goldsboro, NC Dave Walden 3660 416 Tennessee State Net Memphis, TN Percy Nelson 123/ 418 Central Flordia Net Altamonte Springs, FL Tony Tinis 407-682-4 419 Northern Florida Net Gainesville, FL Aaron Glazer 3601 420 Southern Florida Net Naples, FL Bill Stearns 3630 441 SE. Missouri Net Dudley, MO Randy McTurnan 296/ 442 KS Net Salina, KS Leon McClatchey 913-827- 472 SouthEast Louisiana Net Houma, LA Ed Spoon 384 475 NorthEastern Oaklahoma Tulsa, OK David Bolack 170 The above list has been checked for errors, to be as accurate as possible. Please contact us if some onformation is incorrect above. Thank you! Hope to see you soon! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hot Off the Tree David Scott Lewis HOTT -- Hot Off The Tree -- is a FREE monthly electronic magazine featuring the latest advances in computer, communications, and electronics technologies. Each issue provides article summaries on new & emerging technologies, including VR (virtual reality), neural networks, PDAs (personal digital assistants), GUIs (graphical user interfaces), intelligent agents, ubiquitous computing, genetic & evolutionary programming, wireless networks, smart cards, video phones, set-top boxes, nanotechnology, and massively parallel processing. Summaries are provided from the following sources: Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, San Jose Mercury News, Boston Globe, Financial Times (London) ... Time, Newsweek, U.S. News & World Report ... Business Week, Forbes, Fortune, The Economist (London), Nikkei Weekly (Tokyo), Asian Wall Street Journal (Hong Kong) ... over 50 trade magazines, including Computerworld, InfoWorld, Datamation, Computer Retail Week, Dr. Dobb's Journal, LAN Times, Communications Week, PC World, New Media, VAR Business, Midrange Systems, Byte ... over 50 research journals, including ** ALL ** publications of the IEEE Computer and Communications Societies, plus technical journals published by AT&T, IBM, Hewlett Packard, Fujitsu, Sharp, NTT, Siemens, Philips, GEC ... over 100 Internet mailing lists & USENET discussion groups ... FidoNews 11-03 Page: 19 16 Jan 1994 plus ... - listings of forthcoming & recently published technical books; - listings of forthcoming trade shows & technical conferences; and, - company advertorials, including CEO perspectives, tips & techniques, and new product announcements BONUS: Exclusive interviews with technology pioneers ... the next two issues feature interviews with Mark Weiser (head of Xerox PARC's Computer Science Lab) on ubiquitous computing, Nobel laureate Joshua Lederberg on the information society, and Craig Fields (former DARPA head and CEO of MCC) on the future of intelligent computing TO REQUEST A FREE SUBSCRIPTION, CAREFULLY FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS BELOW Send subscription requests to: listserv@ucsd.edu Leave the "Subject" line blank In the body of the message input: SUBSCRIBE HOTT-LIST If at any time you choose to cancel your subscription input: UNSUBSCRIBE HOTT-LIST Note: Do *not* include first or last names following "SUBSCRIBE HOTT-LIST" or "UNSUBSCRIBE HOTT-LIST" The HOTT mailing list is automatically maintained by a computer located at the University of California at San Diego. The system automatically responds to the sender's return path. Hence, it is necessary to send subscription requests and cancellations directly to the listserv at UCSD. (I cannot make modifications to the list ... nor do I have access to the list.) For your privacy, please note that the list will not be rented. If you have problems and require human intervention, contact: hott@ucsd.edu The next issue of the reinvented HOTT e-newsletter is scheduled for transmission in early to mid-February. Please forward this announcement to friends and colleagues, and post to your favorite bulletin boards. Our objective is to disseminate the highest quality and largest circulation compunications (computer & communications) industry newsletter. I look forward to serving you as HOTT's new editor. Thank you. ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE EDITOR H O T T U P D A T E -- 31 December 1993 FidoNews 11-03 Page: 20 16 Jan 1994 I've received a steady stream of superb suggestions over the past week regarding the WWW and cross-posting. In response, I plan to launch a WWW/Postscript version of HOTT by 4Q 94. Also, I'll be attempting to launch a gated version to a USENET group. We'll probably call it: bit.listserv.hott or bit.magazines.computing (I hope!) I'm targeting the first or second issue for the USENET group. Details will be provided in the e-mail version of HOTT as they develop. For the protection of your privacy, the HOTT mailing list will NEVER be rented. However, it has become necessary to seek corporate sponsors to help defray costs for subscriptions, reprint permissions, and related expenses (e.g., a new host site -- we're pushing UCSD to its limits!). But we can't get sponsors unless we have at least 100,000+ subscribers. Once we have hard numbers and launch a USENET group, we'll be recommending that our Internet subscribers switch to the moderated (and closed) USENET group. Converting most of our Internet subscribers to a USENET will pose much less of a strain on our host system, especially when we exceed 250,000 subscribers. Besides, it's actually easier to read a newsletter on a newsreader than it is by e-mail, but it's a lot harder for me to get accurate readership numbers. I'll keep you posted (no pun intended). But we'll continue to offer e-mail subscriptions for those without USENET access. NEW FEATURES (Consider the following to be a ** very ** preliminary announcement of new features I plan to add to HOTT ... but I can't until we get sponsors.) There are several features that I plan to add over the next year. First, I want to expand trade magazine coverage to over 200 sources, including at least 30 British trade publications. Also, I want to provide summaries of U.S. and U.K. national news programs, i.e., ABC, CBS, NBC, and BBC. I'd like to transmit selected full-text features from The Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, The (London) Financial Times, and a Japanese English-language daily (plus article summaries from a few other Japanese English-language dailies; there are a half- dozen English-language dailies published in Japan). Eventually, I'd like to add The New York Times (if I can negotiate a reasonable rate), The San Jose Mercury News, and The Boston Globe. And maybe even Newsbytes and the Japanese English-language equivalent to Newsbytes. I'm currently negotiating with The Los Angeles Times Syndicate for Michael Schrage's "Innovation" column (Michael is willing to comp HOTT on an experimental basis) and I'd like to add a few other syndicated columns. And I have several other surprises! Wish us luck! BTW, information on HOTT archives will be provided in the first issue. -- David Scott Lewis Editor-in-Chief and Book & Video Review Editor FidoNews 11-03 Page: 21 16 Jan 1994 IEEE Engineering Management Review the world's largest circulation "high tech" management journal) Internet address: d.s.lewis@ieee.org Tel: +1 714 662 7037 USPS mailing address: POB 18438 / IRVINE CA 92713-8438 USA -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- the 21st Century Moderator ========================== -editorial- by Jack Crawford 1:260/620 jack@rochgte.fidonet.org As FIDOnet grows and becomes more available through satellite feeds fromPlanet Connect and other means, moderators are finding it increasingly difficult to control unruly users through the the threat of excommunicating them from their echo. That's the big argument in K12Net now as well. And it's valid for all other networks, as far as I can see. However, Planet Connect already has about 400 dishes installed in Zone 1 and the number is growing drammatically as NECs and HEC's start looking at the costs savings and increased availability of echoes and files it provides, so this "problem" is not going to go away. I'll bet we'll start to see other companies competing with PC soon, too. Who knows--given a few years maybe the cable and phone companies will jump in on this, too... This whole arena is so incredibly volatile right now.... Heck, even the electric power companies that have been quietly installing fiber may become a player, too. That's how crazy this all is....! This probably means that the whole concept of moderating will be forced to undergo some major philosphical and methodological changes as a result of this new "open" mode of distribution. The futurists all say that "collaborative management" will be the new paradigm for the next quarter-century, at least. The TQM/Demming and Japanese management philosophies are in line with this to some extent. Essentially, what this means is the demise of the traditional hierachical power structures of the Industrial Era will be replaced by a much "flatter" organization where each individual has more authority _and_responsibility_ for decision making and regulating the conduct of others. Information and power will flow more horizontally to those who need it within the organization rather than in the vertical manner through a hierarchy of peons, middle managers and upper executives that was so prevalent in the Industrial Age. The connectivity of the new technologies puts each individual at the "center" of information and directly "connectable" to anyone else _without_ going thru that hierarchy. The result is FidoNews 11-03 Page: 22 16 Jan 1994 that the hiearchies lose control over the individual. (The social and political implications of this are quite profound!) This suggests a diminished role for echo moderators and an increase in the "civic duty" of _each_ individual participant in an echo to exert peer group pressure on those whose behavior deviates from the de facto standards established by the group. If you are out of line, you (and your sysop and HC, NC and RC) get clobbered with complaint mail. This seeming anarchy is actually a kind of "automatic management" in a sense. As the size of the echo increases, so does the power of the community as a whole. Perhaps the role of the moderator will be evolve to become more of a facilitator and promoter of this sense of "Civic duty" than as "echo cop" or even, for that matter, the managing editor. Now maybe this is all just a lot of hot air.... but it seems to me that the current "top down" way of moderating probably won't work much longer as the ability for any one individual to exert power and control over the conduct on another individual in an echo is diminished. Some other methodology will certainly evolve. My guess is that it will somehow rely on peer group pressure more than anything else. One thing is for sure.... Things are changing...very dramatically,... and very quickly! =jack= --- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- What is the Purpose of Fidonews, If Any? by Mike Bilow, 1:323/107 (Internet: mikebw@bilow.uu.ids.net) Over time, Fidonews seems to have evolved into a forum for the lunatics and crazies in the network to vent frustrations, or at least seems to be rapidly evolving a reputation as such whether true or not. Fidonews has maintained an admirable reluctance to censor the views expressed by contributors, and this policy certainly deserves a large part of the praise or blame for whatever tone and style has lately possessed the publication. No, Fidonews is not an echo, a worrisome analogy raised recently by the editors. By its nature, an echo is intended to promote quick give and take, with messages (not articles) written on the fly, demanding only a modicum of thought. Indeed, it is apparent to us all that some echoes require smaller modicums of thought than others, but none expect the commitment of time and effort appropriate to preparing an article for publication. Articles, unlike messages, should have distinct beginnings, middles, and ends. They should have at least one actual, substantive point. They should be worth reading. They should be worth writing. People make asses of themselves all the time in echoes, but, if one FidoNews 11-03 Page: 23 16 Jan 1994 is to make an ass of oneself in an article, it should be done properly with care and deliberation. This principle has been ignored with increasing frequency of late. The purpose of Fidonews was originally to keep the members of the network in communication. It is useful for the basic functioning of Fidonet, such as advertising the start of new echoes and such. It is even valuable for those of us not directly involved in controversies to see them hashed out in public, as with the imposition of geographical net topology in some regions of Zone 2. Fidonews is, ultimately, the only thing that keeps us together. It is because of the importance of Fidonews that I, as NC, am obliged to haul it into my net while paying long distance telephone charges. Admittedly, this is not very much money, since I can call anywhere in the continental United States for about 10 cents per minute, and both my RC and I have fast modems. Even if Fidonews consumed two minutes to transfer, which is quite a high estimate, the annual cost is still in the range of US$ 10, which is pretty cheap. Nevertheless, when the cost is multiplied across the several hundred nets within Fidonet, and the toll charges within nets are also considered, it becomes evident that we are, collectively, paying tens of thousands of dollars to transfer Fidonews. I contend that this imposes a certain responsibility upon the editors. I am definitely not asking for the imposition of censorship. I firmly believe that anyone should be able to express any substantive and relevant opinions within the publication. However, I believe that the editors do need to begin enforcing some kind of policy that would fairly and equitably exclude some of the absolute rubbish that has been appearing. To begin with, the editors should, as a matter of policy, require that articles have at least some colorable relationship to Fidonet. This does not mean that the occasional peripheral excursion is not allowed, but it would eliminate articles whose sole function is to cite Bible verses in support of an opinion that homosexuality is immoral, as appeared in Fidonews v. 10, no. 52. Of course, I can speak for no one but myself, but, if I wanted to read arguments such as this, I am sure that I could find another appropriate publication to subscribe. To make me pay to receive it is to add insult to injury. As Fidonews descends to the level where it will publish literally anything, it becomes unreadable. And, when Fidonews becomes unreadable, it should come as no surprise that people stop reading it. ### FidoNews 11-03 Page: 24 16 Jan 1994 Presentamos: FIDONOTICIAS INTERNACIONAL por Pablo Kleinman, operador de los nodos 1:10/100 y 2:343/111 escribiendo desde la ciudad de Los Angeles, EE.UU. Hola, gente. Saludos a todos desde el bonito y cada vez mas hispanoparlante sur de California. Me entere hace algunos dias que es aceptable enviar articulos en cualquier idioma a este boletin, y por eso he decidido comenzar a hacerlo en castellano, a partir de este momento. Lamentablemente el programa que crea los "FaidoNius" filtra caracteres particulares de nuestro idioma como las enyes y Los acentos, por lo cual usare el "metodo catalan" de reemplazar enye por 'ny' y omitire los acentos, ya que se no me gusta como se ven los apostrofes en medio de todo el texto. Desde hace por lo menos un par de anyos que existe una polemica acerca de la internacionalidad o no de este boletin semanal, que muchas veces parece mas bien un pasquin de barrio gringo. Mientras que algunos con una vision internacionalista de lo que es FidoNet, hemos solicitado reiteradas veces que se elimine el requisito de que este boletin llegue a todos los rincones de la red, incluso a donde no se habla o entiende ingles, un grupo reducido pero poderoso en norteamerica se opone, argumentando que no importa si hay operadores que no hablen ingles, ya que el reglamento de la red -aquel desgraciado Policy4- dispone que sea obligatoria la distribucion semanal de este boletin (que cuesta dinero a todos). Luego de meditarlo por algun tiempo, pense que si realmente se trata de un boletin internacional, entonces deberemos darle un toque un poco mas internacional, que vaya mas alla de los problemas cotidianos de Yanquilandia, tales como las "guerras santas" entre fanaticos religiosos y liberales, los problemas con las restricciones gubernamentales que solo importan a norteamericanos o residentes de EE.UU., o los anuncios sobre cambios en los codigos de larga distancia y demas yerbas. He aqui entonces el por que de este articulo. En lo sucesivo, hare lo posible por enviar articulos al boletin comentando acerca de la evolucion del trafico de conferencias en castellano, como de temas diversos que nos afectan a todos los hispanoparlantes o a algun pais donde se habla nuestro idioma. Aprovecho tambien para formular una invitacion abierta a todos a escribir en castellano al FidoNews, lo que hara que quienes no hablan ingles pero si hablan nuestro idioma, puedan al menos encontrar algo util en este boletin, de vez en cuando. Muchos salu2 a todos y mis mejores deseos para el anyo que se inicia, -Pablo pablito@usc.edu FidoNews 11-03 Page: 25 16 Jan 1994 ======================================================================== Fidonews Information ======================================================================== ------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION ---------------- Editors: Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, Tim Pozar Editors Emeritii: Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince Perriello, Tom Jennings IMPORTANT NOTE: The FidoNet address of the FidoNews BBS has been changed!!! Please make a note of this. "FidoNews" BBS FidoNet 1:1/23 BBS +1-519-570-4176, 300/1200/2400/14400/V.32bis/HST(DS) Internet addresses: Don & Sylvia (submission address) editor@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca Sylvia -- max@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca Donald -- donald@exlibris.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca Tim -- pozar@kumr.lns.com (Postal Service mailing address) (have extreme patience) FidoNews 128 Church St. Kitchener, Ontario Canada N2H 2S4 Published weekly by and for the members of the FidoNet international amateur electronic mail system. It is a compilation of individual articles contributed by their authors or their authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation does not diminish the rights of the authors. Opinions expressed in these articles are those of the authors and not necessarily those of FidoNews. Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is copyright 1993 Sylvia Maxwell. All rights reserved. Duplication and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or FidoNews (we're easy). OBTAINING COPIES: The-most-recent-issue-ONLY of FidoNews in electronic form may be obtained from the FidoNews BBS via manual download or Wazoo FileRequest, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet. PRINTED COPIES may be obtained from Fido Software for $10.00US each PostPaid First Class within North America, or $13.00US elsewhere, mailed Air Mail. (US funds drawn upon a US bank only.) INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via FTP from ftp.fidonet.org, in directory ~ftp/pub/fidonet/fidonews. If you have questions regarding FidoNews 11-03 Page: 26 16 Jan 1994 FidoNet, please direct them to deitch@gisatl.fidonet.org, not the FidoNews BBS. (Be kind and patient; David Deitch is generously volunteering to handle FidoNet/Internet questions.) SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews BBS, or Wazoo filerequestable from 1:1/23 as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". Please read it. "Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered trademarks of Tom Jennings, and are used with permission. Asked what he thought of Western civilization, M.K. Gandhi said, "I think it would be an excellent idea". -- END ----------------------------------------------------------------------